Trader Joe’s Yogurt and $9 Wine

I wanted to blog today about the price of buying handmade. It’s an issue that comes up a lot in our community, and there are a lot of articles about it already online, but I read a Twitter comment about my pricing today, so I felt prompted to talk about that a little on my blog, not really in a defensive way, but more an informative way. As shoppers, we can make votes with our money. Nobody is forcing us to buy anything (as far as shopping for clothing goes).

I’m leaving her Twitter name out, because I don’t want you guys to go and spam her πŸ˜› plus this entry isn’t really about her, but the issue of pricing.

I recently read this article whose point I think was to explain handmade/indie pricing and why we should buy indie. But what was more interesting to me than the article was the RESPONSE. You may not want to spend the time reading the comments, but I did. The article (I think to be funny?) mentioned that handmade designers need to pay their rent just like you do and need to buy their food just like you do, except, she used expensive cities like LA and NYC as examples and said that we needed to buy our Trader Joe’s yogurt and $9 dollar wine. To this, people would respond, “They should move to a cheaper city to live in, and I don’t want to pay for their Trader Joe’s yogurt and $9 wine.” I get it, but it’s like, we do need to eat, and we do need to live. The article made me think about whether my handmade was even a worthy cause to give money to. Are we all just dreamers, expecting people to pay us to dream? (On a side note, I have often wondered whether living in LA or NYC would be beneficial to me, simply because there may be more opportunities there as far as sourcing materials & labor, marketing & PR events, etc. I mean, there’s the internet and everything, but BEING there is much different! Anyway, I digress…)

I just googled this article today, about how indie designers might price their wares. In her example, the person paid themselves $18/hr. If I paid myself $18/hr, my shop prices would be EXORBITANT, like even MORE exorbitant than they may seem now. Sometimes I end up paying myself more like $5/hr. Sometimes, on a brooch, my profit might be like 50 cents. Lexi also wrote a great article about it, where you can see that more than just making an item goes into the pricing. There’s also time for photographs, editing photographs, shipping, etc. And in her example, she is not even accounting for the fact that her final price is actually really a wholesale price, and retail is usually DOUBLE the wholesale. This keeps a lot of us indie handmade business out of other boutiques and shops. We simply couldn’t make any money at all.

Pricing is really difficult. Like, anxiety-ridden. It’s NOT SANE to price your items too high or else nobody will buy them, but you want to be paid for the 10+ hrs you invested in creating something awesome and unique for somebody. Personally, I can’t use the normal models for pricing because it would make my items way too expensive. So, I do admit: I kind of have to make it up, to keep prices LOWER, not inflate them.

I used to sell exclusively on eBay. I’d start the prices at 99 cents and just let the market decide the pricing. Scarves usually always sold over for $100, often over $200, and sometimes over $300. But I realized that it was the same few people winning the auctions. While money is nice (YES IT IS), I didn’t know that this model was working for me, because I wanted more people to be able to have my goodies, not just the highest bidder.

I thought about it for a long time, and finally tried Etsy, where I had to set my pricing, and I did so based on what I’d get on eBay, but a lot lower. So I knew, it was possible that I’d make less money, but hopefully, more of my product would be sprinkled all over the world.

I *am* a real person,Β  just like everyone else. I know that spending $100 on something, ANYTHING, is a lot, which is why I also tried to expand into writing a pattern book, and also launching Yummy You! by Twinkie Chan, which has been this crazy rollercoaster, all with the intention of making my designs more affordable for more people. Yes, Yummy You has taken a while. It’s harder than you think to source affordable, handmade, crochet labor, especially because my designs are pretty out-there and not just a beanie or a rectangular scarf that a factory might be used to churning out.

All this is to say: I’m trying. I’m not sitting up here on my velvet throne, in my silken pajamas and golden tiara, laughing at all of you for buying a scarf made by me. I’m trying to get you guys some fun goodies that you can afford. That in itself has been a labor of love, with tons of work on spec and like two years of hard work for no profit. I am really hoping I can make more announcements about Yummy You soon!

I’m sorry if this has come off preachy (or boring…no pictures!), but it is an issue that a lot of handmade designers deal with on a daily business. We deal with un-informed, rude people complaining about our prices at craft shows right in front of our faces, and we deal with all those pesky bills at the end of the month. We deal with whether our work deserves to exist or not, whether our ideas and craft have worth, and what that worth is.

At the end of the day, my work stems from something my mom and Auntie Nita always told us when we were shopping: GO HOME AND MAKE IT. Shopping too expensive? Make it yourself. Stuff in the mall too boring? Make an awesome one yourself. Don’t know how to crochet/knit/sew/bead/etc? Hop on YouTube and find a tutorial.

Thanks again for supporting me. Even if you’ve never bought a single thing from my shop, but you still read along with me here or may have said hi to me in the Trader Joe’s parking lot (it did happen and I did not buy yogurt or wine…haha!), I appreciate you!

110 Comments on “Trader Joe’s Yogurt and $9 Wine”

  • Julie H.

    says:

    Meanwhile corporate heads are buying mansions and planes and sending their maids to shop and expensive markets because they would never step foot in Trader Joe’s. Some people are unreal in who they single out to complain about. It’s definitely not based on reality.

    Something else not mentioned is a lot of people working like you have a lot more visible about your lives. We can talk to you and can see your work ethic. When was the last time someone could go up to a corporate officer and have a chat? Do we see them talking about their lives on-line?

    I’d rather pay an individual artist for their well done work and get one scarf or top than buy a sack of clothing from Walmart that won’t last very long and often is not attractive. But then I’m one who is trying to fight off the whole consumerism stuff in my life since it mostly supports those at the top and not even always in the US. I’d rather have my dollars go directly to someone who is doing good than to some unknown corporation that possibly is doing more harm to people and this world.

    Besides, Trader Joe’s Yogurt isn’t that expensive. Rather eat that then Dannon any day. From what I just checked TJ’s is about four cents more. OMG

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      HAHA that was my initial thought, too. Trader Joe’s shopping is usually cheaper than Safeway!!! But then I guess if you are a big coupon-er or maybe shop at Grocery Outlet, it’s a different story!

  • Tamara

    says:

    I think the problem is that so many people are consumed by consumerism, and are so used to going to Walmart to buy a $5 scarf made in China , that they don’t realize how much work goes into handmade. Especially if they are not crafters themselves, they just… don’t get it.

    The other problem is that some people sell handmade items but for them it’s not a job, it’s just a hobby, so they price them a lot lower than they should. This can be really frustrating, too, because buyers then think that the items aren’t worth as much as they are.

    But I think you’re awesome, and I think you should be able to live the dream, even if that dream involves $9 wine. Or especially if it involves $9. (This sounds like a good deal to me.) I can’t afford $175 on a scarf at the moment, but I bought one of your lucky charm headbands recently and it is AWESOME.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Thanks, Tamara! Yeah, I don’t want to be preachy or overbearing about it, but I think it’s nice to put the info out there, and then people can do whatever they want with it πŸ˜‰

  • Patty

    says:

    Honestly, I buy your stuff to really appreciate your talent, design and time that you put into it. Darn it that I didn’t think of the idea first and darn it that I didn’t go make it myself. That said, I’m not rich and can’t afford a scarf, but I know how to read and I crochet, I bought your pattern book and try it for myself and can tell you put in alot of work to the design. Just to write it down so that anybody can make it is no easy feat. I just want to say you’re doing great, and a brilliant designer. Keep up the good work!

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Thanks, Patty!

    • Chely

      says:

      Ditto Patty!!! πŸ™‚

      • Jo

        says:

        I agree. People don’t take into consideration all the creativity that takes place before anything else. It is not an easy process. Plus all the hours you put in crocheting it so it can be perfect. Sometimes unraveling it a couple of times before you are satisfied with it. Giving the best product possible to your customers. You put alot of time, effort and heart into your product. If people are complaining, maybe they should just buy a ball of yarn and see if they can do it.

  • Chairokuma

    says:

    I often feel that most people do not realize how much time, effort, and money go into making anything until they have tried it. There really is not a reason for anyone to openly complain about the price of a handmade item when the owner of said item also offers a book full of cute and fun patterns to try. By the way, thanks Twinkie-Chan! I love your book!
    My apologies, I just realized how rude I must have seemed at first.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      I don’t think you came off as rude πŸ™‚ Sure, I have thought in my head, “Why is this so expensive?” But instead of complaining, you can try to do something about it i.e. make one!

  • Thank you
    Sometimes I think about all the work I would put into something and think how if anyone else worked their job as long as I did for what I made they would never accept the prices people think is more reasonable

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      I think what bugs me the most is that people are like “YAY MADE IN THE USA! NO SWEAT SHOP LABOR!” but they don’t actually want to pay for that.

  • Emi

    says:

    Bravo for an awesome entry!

    Here’s how I see it- yes, some indie/DIY/handmade items do seem expensive (=overpriced), but no one’s forcing you to buy anything! In all honesty, I would love to be able to afford all the DIY/indie brand projects I adore. But in reality, I can’t. But that doesn’t give me (or anyone, for that matter) to go bash crafters/makers that their prices are “too high.” If that was the case, I’d think no one would be buying their items in the first place…

    There’s so much time, effort, and love put into DIY projects. Hence the prices are higher than your average, mass-manufactured $5 items you can buy in retail stores. Duh.

    Thank you for such an informative post, and please keep up the amazing work!! I can’t wait to shop from you again some time soon! πŸ™‚

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Thanks, Emi!

      I agree, I love to buy DIY clothing and love to support indie business. But sometimes you go to F21 to buy a $15 dress. It happens and it’s just reality!

  • Cara

    says:

    Awesome post! I’m just starting on my own handmade business and have already been thinking about costs and what on earth I will charge if I’m to be making all these things myself. This would just be a fun thing for me for now, but it’d be lovely if it could be my job too, at some point.
    I think your scarves are delightful though I’m yet to buy one (one day, soon, I promise) and it just seems obvious to me that they take a LOT of time to create and that if I made one myself and had to sell it, I’m sure I’d want at least $500 for all the effort I put into it!

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      There are some scarves, like the sushi scarf, I flat out refuse to make. It just takes TOOOO much work. I’ll take that $500! πŸ˜›

      • Roxy

        says:

        I totaly agree with you TwinkieChan! I just made the sushi scarf by myself…. and I will never make one again! It’s so much work! I think I needed nearly two weeks (and I’m very fast in crocheting) …but I lost my motivation after every 5th sushi part… *sighn*

        If someone ever crocheted a scarf like this on his/her own… you pay neraly every amount for never doing it again πŸ˜‰

        • TwinkieChan

          says:

          Congrats on attacking the sushi scarf! It’s a beast!!!! I am so happy that we will producing it for Yummy You so I never have to make one again πŸ˜‰

  • Sharon

    says:

    This situation is one of those “between a rock and a hard place.” Many people can not afford to buy the items we work many hours to create. One thing that I do with a friend of mine is that she will buy me something as payment for what I am making. I’m finishing the 2nd afghan she commission me to make and she paid me with a kitchen aid mixer. She was free to use any discounts she was eligible for and search sales to get the best price for her. This may or may not work for you but it works okay for us.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Yes, I have definitely “bartered” with friends…. like once I traded for tattoo time! πŸ˜‰ This model works less well for running a business, though. But it would be cool. I would love to receive $150 worth of cookies! πŸ˜‰

  • Jody Pham

    says:

    Ah, THANK YOU for writing this! As an illustrator, I struggle with this as well. My drawings are so intricate and usually quite time-consuming (though I wouldn’t change a thing!), so, much like your amazing scarves, I’m experiencing the constant struggle between wanting to make my art accessible to everyone, but not doing so at my own expense. It’s good to know that there are still people out there who appreciate the dedication and talent that go into a handmade item. I think your scarves are worth every penny! I really admire you for a lot of reasons, and wish you continued success. There is a reason people keep coming back for more of your brilliant creations! xoxo

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Thank you, Jody!
      I’ve always liked the idea of having two tiers of goods: the high end, expensive stuff, and the lower end less expensive stuff. So for fine artists, when I can buy a print for $100-$200 rather than a $1000 or $2000 original, I’m definitely pumped!

  • I know exactly how you feel. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had people look bewildered when I tell them a hand sculpted, hand painted charm is $8 at a convention. People just can’t understand the work that goes into something because usually they have never tried to make it themselves. It’s super depressing honestly :/ I just think there are always going to be people that appreciate the work and see if for art, and then there are always going to be the people that just want everything for cheap.

  • Amanda

    says:

    One of the reasons I learned to crochet because it would be cheaper to have things I want and also because making it is rewarding but I had no idea how much time, attention and effort goes into it. I would never underprice something I put so much of myself into. I think the Twitter girl just doesn’t realize you don’t just spend an hour creating one scarf.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Yeah I am ok if someone is like, “That’s expensive and I can’t afford it so that’s why I don’t buy from you.” I mean, that is completely reasonable. I just don’t think I need to be demonized for it! hehe. But everyone has a right to their own opinion as well, I guess!

  • Celest Pritchett

    says:

    I do not think your prices are too high. I think that they are underpriced. That Twitter commenter just does not get it. Handmade items are the most valuable items (gifts) you can buy (receive). You are not just getting the item you are getting the maker’s time and skill- which is far more valuable than money.
    I am a crocheter who can not afford to buy a Twinkie Chan scarf so….I bought your book–love it–and I can make my own! Thank you so much for publishing some your patterns. I have made my own patterns too and I do realize how much time that takes.
    You are awesome. Thank you, Thank you!!

  • just because someone admires your style and appreciates handmade goods does not make them your customer. it’s hard to say things like that, but the fact is that there ARE people who are willing (and able) to pay more for unique, handcrafted creations, and money may have little to no bearing on their decision to purchase. you have smaller items, and a book of patterns, to reach out to people who aren’t ready to buy a scarf, and i am sure being able to familiarize themselves with your awesomeness in this way will raise the perceived value of your work in their minds. don’t rule out the possibility of actually paying yourself real money to do what you do. if you can’t afford to stay home and crochet, nobody gets a scarf and nobody wins. and you know what, if you DID want silken pajamas and a tiara, then good for you. spend your money on the things that YOU value and encourage others to do the same.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      oh for sure! i do appreciate people who might just leave a comment on a photo/item they like, or just say hi on the blog, even if they don’t want to or can’t buy anything from me. i do think there is a learning curve still, though for buyers of handmade, who don’t realize that handmade doesn’t mean bargain-shopping. i was hesitant to even mention any of this at all because i didn’t want to seem whiney or woe-is-me, but whenever a fellow DIYer writes something about it, i’m like *yay* *cheers* so at least we can put the info out there.

      p.s. i luvs your shop!

      • and it is blog entries like THIS that help to educate people about the process, and see the frantically crafting humans behind the magic curtain, so just keep it up, lady.

  • kathleen

    says:

    Thank you for writing this! It is always so hard to decide on appropriate pricing. After adding up all the time designing, planning, making, photographing, and promoting, the actual cost even seems too much to charge! It is easy to look at prices for handmade goods and see just the product-not the time and effort invested. Hopefully the growth of the handmade movement has made it easier to understand all the work that goes into our products!
    Just an fyi, i would also love to receive a payment of the appropriate amount of cookies πŸ™‚

  • Rini Sapphire

    says:

    Thanks much for your thoughts here. We don’t always get to hear what the seller thinks, nor do we remember that they’re a real person with bills, too. Consumers don’t always take things into consideration, so thank you. It’s nice to hear the other perspective and to know that you think hard about these things! It’s nice to know that you care =)

    Oh, and thank you for saying so in such a calm and orderly fashion; I didn’t feel like I was being attacked πŸ˜‰

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      πŸ™‚ Yeah I am really not into instigating or participating in drama, even though it is unavoidable sometimes. Hey, I’m human!

  • Jenilee

    says:

    Ah! This was a great article πŸ˜€ I was working at a consignment store for awhile and the owner let me sell my jewelry and clothing there. As the store got more popular, my items were selling faster..and I had to definately sit down and figure out the correct way to price my items! It was also good because I got to see what sold the fastest, b/c of the prices.
    I would sell about 10 pairs of earrings ($3-$5each) a day, and MAYBE one necklace a week ($7-$15each) Even though I loved making the necklaces, the public loved buying the earrings (b/c the price and the awesomness of them being one of a kind)! So once or twice a week I would sit down and time myself. I would sit an hour and HAVE to make atleast 20 pairs of earrings.
    Anyways! Just some advice for any of the crafters on here: “it’s easier to sell 100 things for $1, than 1 thing for $100”
    and that’s where China (walmart,etc) gets us!

    Hey TwinkieChan! Why don’t you sell on Etsy AND Ebay? Best of both worlds πŸ˜€

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      I thought about that for a while, but was not quite sure what my strategy would be as far as what goes on Etsy and what goes on eBay!

  • Ellen Barth

    says:

    I totally agree with you about not being able to get paid for the hours you put into handmade items. I have made teddy bears and like other handmade items, they take many hours to make.
    On another note, Trader Joe’s prices and not that expensive, at least in my area! They often beat the local grocery store prices.
    I have your book which I love and hope to try one of the items in it soon.
    I love everything of yours that I have seen online. Keep up your wonderful craft and don’t feel bad about the prices that you charge.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Thank you, Ellen!

  • hijennybrown

    says:

    I completely understand where you’re coming from. I used to create wholesale items for a web/event seller. The prices she suggested for my work were ridiculous, but I was poor and stupid. In hindsight, I think some of “her” patterns were actually things she found online and had me (illegally) reproduce. I remember staying up all night over and over to make $30 (minus materials). I’m older and wiser now. I sell patterns so I don’t have to worry about it all!
    Keep doing what you’re doing – I love it, and I know so many other people do, too!

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      I think one day I will end up selling patterns only as well, but I still love having a shop full of goodies and sending cute packages out into the universe! I’m not quite ready to give it up yet! πŸ˜‰

  • Hello twinkie:) I liked what you wrote. I make things and try to sell them at a descent price so people would be able to buy them. I wanted to Make my products cheaper because we are all struggling in this economy. My 1st customer was my dad and I’m really happy about it.:) But it would make me sad if someone said something on twitter like that about me. I did look at your scarfs and at 1st i thought man thats expensive! then i thought well she is using a lot of yarn and it does take a lot of time to make it. I’ve always like buying hand made things and I do shop a lot on etsy.lol I love looking at your scarfs:) I posted my etsy shop link and wanted your opinion on my pricing when you have time:) Have a great day Twinkie:) Love your work!!!

    Manami

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Just from looking at your shop, I think your prices are really super reasonable! Do you feel you get enough back for your time/materials?

      • Thanks for the reply:) The materials were a little expensive and it didn’t take a long time for me to make my stuff so I’m not sure if I will get enough back for my time and materials. Like i said in my 1st comment, I want to make my products cheaper because we are all struggling in this economy. I think about my costumers 1st then my self. This is not a full time job for me its kind of a part part time job and I enjoy making things:)

  • I know this all too well. Running my own etsy shop, I know that pricing is difficult. I don’t want to make a bunch of cheap items so that I can sell them cheaply but I also don’t want to make a bunch of expensive items that nobody can afford. What many people don’t realize is that for us to sell things, we incur fees on top of the price of the materials we need to make the item. It’s completely unreasonable for ANYONE to think that we shouldn’t pay ourselves for the hard work that we put into an item that someone else wants.

  • I’m not sure why pricing is so offensive to people. Too expensive for you? Don’t buy it. It’s as simple as that, whether the item was made by a small business or a large corporation. I guess it upsets some people when they can’t afford the cool indie gear they see. But you know, that’s life. Not everyone can afford everything.

    Being accessible as a small business owner is a double-edged sword, because then every pricing complaint gets directed at you personally… and you get more complaints (I would think, although I obviously can’t say for sure) because people know they can get through to you instead of a customer service rep who has no control over pricing.

    Sorry you had to deal with this. Well, really, it’s just unfortunate that every small business owner has to deal with this regularly. I appreciate the tone of your article – calm and informative usually gets through to people much better than other alternatives.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      I think the direct-route you mentioned is an interesting point. I had always seen it as a positive thing, so that people would feel connected to the source of their purchase. I guess, like all things, it has negative potential as well!

  • I’ve been running Warning Label as a business for a little over 4 years now, and I understand that I’m expensive. I generally can’t afford a lot of the stuff I make. At tax time, all of my earnings for Warning Label go directly back into the business and I’m lucky that I break even most years. I sacrifice a lot of things like going out to eat, movies, and buying new clothes so I can work for myself and love what I do. But when I can buy new stuff or splurge, I go right for handmade things. Because the self-employed artists gotta stick together, and I know everyone else has rent, or mortgages, car payments, electric bills, and groceries to buy too. <3

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Hairy would remind me that in the beginning, it can be rare for a small business to even make a profit, depressing but true! hehe

      • So true! But I don’t have to be one of those people who sit around complaining about how much they hate their job. πŸ˜› I get to watch Law and Order all day and sew!

  • yasmine

    says:

    Great article.loved reading it and totally agree.I had that pricing issue when we went to retail…keep up the ammazing work~!

  • Amber

    says:

    Your post was very well written and just like you said, not defensive but informative.

    I would say I often think twice about buying something expensive (whether that be $50, $100, or $$$) but when it comes to something I know is handmade, that dollar amount changes dramatically in my head ($50 turns into $25). I KNOW that it is not only a one-of-a-kind item but it was a labor of love from someone who has a talent and a passion. I find myself never feeling guilty or outraged when it comes to the sticker price on an item I see on etsy or at a craft fair (especially when I can see with my own eyes the details of the stitching, or the heaviness of the fabric, etc.) Granted, that doesn’t mean that I can afford nor do I buy a ton of handmade items. I do have to keep myself in check and more often then not, I cannot afford to buy a lot of the beautiful handmade items that have me drooling. I do have to be selective. That being said – there has rarely been a time that the item was not worth the price.

    I would like to say that I really APPRECIATE that you have moved your items onto etsy from ebay. I used to look at your ebay listing and wish that I could bid. Now that you have moved to etsy I have been able to buy hair clips, mitts, and your book, allowing me to bring a small piece of Twinkie Chan into my world. THANK YOU!

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Thank YOU for your support!! It really means a lot to me!

  • Liana

    says:

    This is a great article! Sometimes I can’t believe that those of us that make things have to even justify ourselves. It seems unfair. I’ve had people say, “I can make that” in front of my table at a craft fair when I did fairs. It’s hurtful and insensitive and I try not to judge them in return…but it’s nice to know that some of us are kinder folks and wouldn’t be so rude. And that’s ok. Because those who will appreciate the time you’ve put in to each project are the ones that are your people and that you want owning and sporting your awesome stuff! :o)

    Also, I agree with Kelsea. Like anything else, if you can’t afford something or don’t like the pricing of something…guess what? You don’t buy it. And she’s right. Small business persons that are online and have blogs are more accessible. Anyway, I’m sorry that you had to deal with this. You rock!!!

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Thanks!!! Yeah, I think having to deal with it in person and in front of your face hurts a bit more, but we have to remember the greater majority of people who can be delighted by our work! πŸ™‚

  • Nicky

    says:

    I agree with Patty among others. With designs like yours and the persona we’ve come to know from your blog and other social media I buy not only because I love the uniqueness of them but because I want to keep supporting the person that makes them and who I’d like to continue making them. I love the fact even more that a real person made this as opposed to a machine in China. And it’s sad that a lot of people don’t get that. The people who complain are those people who are used to spending that $5 dollars at Walmart, Target whatever and expect it to be like that all the time.

    And with intricate designs like yours hand crocheting is no quick work!(i only know this from trying to knit, I assume its almost the same) People only look at the wholesale but expect you to work for free but they would need to think if they took their car to get fixed would they argue about the labor fee? Doubtful (unless they wanted to their car to stay broke, lol) so if a mechanic can ask for a reasonable labor fee, then why can’t you?

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      I guess sometimes we can also forget that things like sewing or knitting are skilled labor. Granted, any one CAN learn but it’s not that they always WILL learn.

      Like if someone remarks why my prices are what they are, I would tell them to buy my book so they can make something themselves. Then they tell me, “But I don’t know how to crochet,” and I think they answered their own question without realizing it.

  • Gail

    says:

    I am a crafter and I know what it costs to make something, you NEVER get the time you put into a item—NEVER!!!! No one is putting a gun to your head saying buy this, if someone wants it they are going to pay the price no matter what it is. I love your items and think they are wonderful, so I bought your book so I can make some of the things you make. However some people do not do crafts so they are willing to pay for your items. People are going to complain no matter what you do, so my advise is do what you do and don’t worry about what others are saying, they ccan bu your scarf or go to Walmart and get a cheap one that is only going to fall apart, thus forcing them to buy another and another, you get what you pay for.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Thanks, Gail!
      Yes, quality is definitely a big time suck which means more work and higher pricing!
      While working on Yummy You the first time around, I was not given enough time to go back and forth with the factory in order to make sure everything was put together the way I wanted, and it was really horrifying and embarassing to think about product going out that I did not feel 100% about, and sometimes, some of the product DID unravel. I was HORRIFIED. But the company I worked with didn’t really care. It was MY name on it.
      So we are now working with a different company, and I am SOOOO happy that they give me time to work on the products first. Mass produced will never be the same as handmade (Even though my mass produced is STILL handmade….just…on a mass level hehe), but it is really important to me that the products last as long as possible!
      It really did surprise me, though, that companies would not even care about this at all. It was really eye opening.

  • TeenaBee

    says:

    Thanks for the informative blog! I am actually doing my first show at the end of July, and my husband and I have been going back and forth on pricing. I use to have my bags in my shop priced at $30 with free shipping!!!! Which basically paid for my supplies and not much more. I was really getting nothing for the time spent on each piece. Even at that ridiculous price I still had people writing me asking for money off or some sort of deal. So for the show I was wondering if people would really pay the price they are worth? I thought we had come to a decision on the pricing, and just the other day a lady at work had told me she didn’t think anyone would buy my bags for $50… which is the show price we decided on that still leaves me making under minimum wage for my time! I got really discouraged and bummed. On one side, no one is going to buy if no one knows who I am. And how are people going to get to know my name and store if the product isn’t out there? And how do I get the product out there without pricing it so that people will buy it? But then I keep going back to wondering is it really worth literally ALL MY TIME to make bags that I making absolutely no profit off of. I do work a full time job, so this is not my only income to rely on, but that does not mean that I really want to spend all my free time for nothing. Reading your post made me decide that I need to just stick with my pricing and stop going back and forth and worrying about it. Like you said, if people don’t like the price, they don’t have to buy. I adore your work, and I wish I could buy more! But I do not complain about pricing. I just purchase what I can afford. I have a cupcake cozy (which I LOOOOOVE) as well as your book that I have made my own cupcake scarf from! (Though I do prey that I win your current giveaway so that I can use that 20% to get my hands on that pancake scarf!!) So from one crafter to another, thanks for the advice!

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Ah good luck with your show! After doing my first show, I absolutely hated it and never wanted to do another one again! hahah.

      Now whenever I do one, I just hope to break even, and think of it more for marketing/advertising purposes, although I do know crafters who use shows to pay for their month’s rent, so it all works differently for all of us.

      Pricing at shows IS hard, and it’s REALLY hard to look at a potential customer and see them getting disgusted or laughing at your price tag. For this reason, I will say quick hi and then look away, to save my own feelings! I actually reduce my scarf pricing at shows (though I don’t know if I recommend that) in order to move them, but my smaller items are usually regularly priced.

      I think people will buy something if they are very delighted by it and can’t get it anywhere else, so it’s important, when starting up, that you feel your items are very unique compared to the other stuff at the show or on Etsy.

      I also found it was useful to offer smaller, lower-priced items, so the spendy items are for show and for promotion, and then you can make make more money off the smaller sales.

      Unfortunately, I have found, that nobody really wants to buy pinback or magnet sets or stationery from me hehehhe I can’t sell that to save my life, so it may take a few shows to figure out the best approach for your shop πŸ™‚

  • Soph Opera

    says:

    I can’t understand why people lash out in that way… maybe they’re unhappy with themselves that they can’t afford something, so they take it out on the artist? There are lots of things in this world that I can’t afford, but I don’t blame the person who made them! One of my favorite things about shopping on etsy is the satisfaction of receiving something that you have taken the time to sit down and make, just for me. That’s a skill you have, that you have spent your time developing, not to mention the emotional and personal investment one makes in their art. You wouldn’t write blogs posts about agonizing over the perfect color of yarn if you didn’t care about what you were doing! Not to mention that these are your ideas and they are worth something – whether your work costs $175 or $1.75!

    PS, when did Trader Joe’s and $9 wine become staples of a rockstar income? Maybe I don’t buy enough wine, but $9 a bottle sounds pretty reasonable to me and I buy my wine and the grocery store – and I long for a Trader Joe’s in my town because when I used to live near one, it was cheaper than the big chains.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      I know! I always found that shopping at TJ’s was cheaper than usual!!!! But I guess it’s all relative!

  • Bunnhi

    says:

    While I have yet to purchase an item from you (bills & school loans stopping me) I still enjoy reading your posts & day dreaming about the day I’ll have an original Twinkie Chan product. But you’re right, people have no clue about who they should really complain about. They don’t take into account about how much time & love is put into each item. Not everything can be outsourced just so they can have a nicer deal. Personally I like knowing that fact that you made the product yourself & that’s worth the money. So keep doing what you’re doing Twinkie <3

  • MZ

    says:

    This girl clearly is not a crafter.

    I think another thing that a lot of people don’t realize is that for a lot of people who sell their handmade goods, this isn’t just a hobby, it’s their full time job. A lot of crafters don’t get home from their 9-5, whip together something, then sell it online. I know just from reading your tweets that you’re up till all hours of the night and morning crocheting until your fingers are sore. Your items are well worth every penny because we know for a fact that you work hard on them. You’re a one woman army of sorts.

    It just goes back to the old principle, “if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all”. If you can’t afford something handmade, then make it yourself. If you aren’t able to make it yourself, stop complaining and go buy a scarf made by Taiwanese children in a sweat shop for $5. I mean, as you said, you put out a book to make your patterns more accessible, and it’s not like you HAD to do that.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Overseas labor is also something I have major anxiety about. Like, for Yummy You, the whole point is to lower the price of my designs, but my designs still need to be handmade, since knitting machines can’t replicate the shapes very well, and if we kept that labor in the U.S., the retail pricing would still be so much! So our only recourse is to go overseas. It’s hard to win!

  • Holly R.

    says:

    …you know, I have been collecting Twinkie items for the past couple of years and I think I have everything BUT a scarf! I think every item is worth the price and I am saving up for that dream-scarf! In the store I work in, everyone wants a deal, even when stuff is super cheap! It’s maddening! *__*
    Keep up the awesome work, <3 you Twinkie Chan!!!

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Thanks, Holly!

      Yeah someone mentioned that people will complain even if something is free! heheh.

      Thank you for always supporting me!! I am still always really surprised and relieved when I have repeat customers. I really appreciate it πŸ™‚

  • Lilia

    says:

    It’s like you wrote this just for me. I recently opened up my own Etsy shop and I’ve been stressing about the price of my earrings. I used the equation in this article and the price was just fine but then I noticed I left out some materials and when I added that to the equation the price increased quite a bit. I was really afraid people wouldn’t pay that much but I have to remember that handmade is quality. So thanks for posting this! It’s just what I needed to calm my fears.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Oh I Just checked out your shop!!! Good luck with it!!!

      I was thinking about how artists and crafters really put themselves out there, and once you put yourself out there, it’s possible you are now subject to the judgment and criticism of thousands of strangers. I don’t know if people really think about that!

  • TL

    says:

    hi there!
    i’ve been a closet fan of yours for a while. i love to check out your blog and the new stuff you have made and your adventures. although i am a fan, i haven’t bought anything from you because i too have that mentality that “Yay that stuff is cool! but damn its expensive” however, i totally understand the pricing issue because i’m too am also craftster (sometimes..lol.), its all about paying yourself, your overhead…etc, etc…its A LOT of work and most of us do this all by ourselves!
    (i should stop blabbing now)
    you’re right, if its not your price, then MAKE It yourself!
    i admire how your lil craft hobby has grown and more power to you! :o)

  • rita

    says:

    honestly your craft is really an art and there are plenty of people who spend BIG dollars on amazing art. you dream up colorfully cute wearable happiness for people and you even gave them the handbook to make their own, not all artist will do that.

    your pieces are phenomenal, and the pricing is more than reasonable for what you create!

    xox

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Thank you, RitaPita!
      I have an announcement for you. You will now make $5/scarf so that we can sell them for $15. Thank you for your time.

  • vanessa cottoncandy

    says:

    It’s so true!
    To be honest, I can’t afford your scrafs and I cannot afford most of the awesome indie craft goodies on Etsy and dawanda. I’m a poor univerity student and am not allowed to earn more than 400 Euro a month because of insane german bureaucracy reasons. O_o
    So I bought your book!!! Guess, I told u that before but I got really excited about u realising a book, though I couldn’t crochet at all. So I resolved to learn it until the date of publication and I DID IT! I’m a really crafty and creative person and got obsessed. Now I’m up to start my own shop with my designed stuff and deal with a lot of insecurities.
    A friend told me to be exclusive. But I realize that most people aren’t able or willing to pay that much. Besides, I ask myself all the time if my work is good enough, anyway.
    I know how long it takes to make a cupcake scarf and your prices are more than justified. Most people seem to concider that the whole art and crafting thing is more about hobby than real work. Some guy wanted, I didn’t even know, wanted one of my drawings for free, because I could simply make a new one….suuuure, I’m a copier !! O_o
    By the way, I thought about sending you something as a thank u someday πŸ™‚

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      OH good luck on your shop!!! I think it’s good to try not to put too much pressure on yourself. In the beginning, you’ll just be feeling out what people like to buy from you and what items work best. When I first opened my website, I didn’t think anybody would buy anything, but I didn’t care. I was just proud that I had the made the website and the stuff in it πŸ˜‰ xoxo

  • Andreanna

    says:

    I think all of us get complaints about pricing and it can be frustrating but you know how much work you put into your items so you shouldn’t feel guilty making them a price that not everyone can afford. It’s not like you have elves making them for you in your sleep.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Well, I DO have elves, but they need to get paid too! πŸ˜‰

      • Andreanna

        says:

        OH I’m jealous. I need some elves but no gnomes since they aren’t potty trained.

        • Andreanna

          says:

          OH no that was trolls!

          • TwinkieChan

            says:

            Trolls are not potty trained but elves and gnomes are!? This is good to know, to avoid those stinky crochet trolls heheh.

  • Sarah

    says:

    That was a great post Twinkie. Good to get insight into what indie business owners have to struggle with on a regular basis. I totally take my hat off to you for having the courage forgo a “regular” stable – but unfulfilling – 9-5 job. I always support indie business owners and their crafts. As you alluded to, if someone doesn’t have that same passion for a craft, hobby, or whatever it may be, I don’t think they can ever fully understand the love and patience (and man hours!!) that goes into a piece.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      I did try to have the 9-5 job and do the crochet thing on the side for a few years but just realized at that point, that I was doing a half-assed job at both! hehe

  • Reb Davis

    says:

    Thank you for taking the time to explain that we as a creative crowd, hardly ever make a profit…but we still do it, still love the creative process!
    etsy.com shop: ColorfullCrochet

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      We need patrons, like in the old days! πŸ˜‰

  • anyone who crafts things with their hands or loves knows someone who does – already knows and agrees with the points you’ve made.
    As far as the buying community….I can’t imagine people look for handmade under the premise that it will be ‘cheaper’ seriously? I have locals ask me all the time to recreate something they’ve seen in the store b/c it’s so expensive and when I break it down to them – my price is double sometimes more.

    In this modern ‘educated’ world we live in I would expect people to realize that when you seek out handmade – you’re seeking out originality and quality. And for those oustanding qualities – you pay a premium. …that’s how my mind works anyway…if you want a generic price then pay for a generic item from a generic store.

    People pay for what they want…even if they have to save for a while to get it. And anyone that would post that nonsense on twitter is a hater…point blank…period.
    You rock and so does everything you make! I love handmade and happily pay a premium price for a premium product!

    Smooches!

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Thanks, Renee!
      I think there is also a divide between people selling things as a hobby and people selling things as their means of living who are doing the math. This is not to say that one or the other is more correct than the other, but it can create a divide in pricing for sure. When I started my website in 2005, I priced my scarves at $30-$40, because I was basing my pricing on scarves I’d see in stores. That didn’t really work either hehe. I wasn’t relying on that money for income since I was working in publishing, but I definitely realized that what’s in the stores is totally different!

      • Thats a great point! Absolutely! I gasp at the thought of you selling anything you make for $40 yikes! But then I think back to 2001 when I was starting everything I made on ebay for 9.99 and was elated if the bid went over $20. Like you, it didnt matter at that time b/c I was just ‘playing’ … but I’m serious now πŸ˜›
        And it is totally different than whats in stores. I guess people really don’t ‘think’ about it – even the ‘handmade’ scarves that the upper tier stores sell are still made by a ‘person’ at a machine doing one function of the scarf and then sliding it down to the next ‘person’ at the next machine and I dare say the only real ‘handy’ part is the person tying it off at the end.
        I glad you had this discussion – I feel that giving the consumer the opportunity to hear where the artists perspective and hopefully open up their mind to new way of thinking is beneficial for the collective!

  • The Girl Who Posted the Twitter Comment

    says:

    I was once a Twinkie Chan hard core fan. I have your books, pdf, your popcorn instructions from the days when they were free- I followed your blog daily. You will always be so talented. I will be the first to commend you on that. Let me first also preface what I am about to say by saying that I don’t mind paying for quality. I fully understand the cost and time it takes to make an item for others to buy. There is also the time and effort in designing the item you are about to create. My gramma used to have a cottage business so I get it. There is a limit however. Some of your designs, like the chain neckwarmer, are simply hacks off of others’ work on etsy who sell their full scarves for a fraction of the cost. I should also mention that a lot of these crafters who sold these chain scarves had been doing so long before your hacked version came about. What did you do? You jumped on a bandwagon, grabbed a design that was already out there (didn’t innovate anything), shortened it, and doubled the price. Classy. Just as you get bent out of shape when people don’t credit you for inspiration when making or selling a design, imagine them. Crafting is their lifeblood and source of income as well. Your prices are exorbitant. Even you admit to that. Normal people who would absolutely love to own a Twinkie Chan creation can’t justify paying those prices. It’s like β€œHmm… pay my car payment or buy a scarf.” Your scarves on etsy are some of the most expensive. Out of the 1095 pages of etsy hits for the words β€œcrochet scarf”, sorted from most expensive to least, your stuff shows up on page 3. Even with your giveaways and %’s off of a price, you still sell your items well over the median price for a scarf. Oddly enough the only reason I ever knew about my illustrious debut on this blog post is because I still was, unbeknownst to me, subscribing to your RSS feed. Check my phone and, “Oh look. A Twinkie rant.”
    I was never upset with the price of handmade goods. I was upset with the prices of Twinkie Chan who I still believe is price gouging and she will undoubtedly continue doing do.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      I never know if I should respond to negativity or not, because I often find that it’s pointless because people are stubborn (myself included) and will just continue to believe what they will believe regardless of what anybody says (myself included). If a cupcake scarf takes me 8-10 hours to make from start to finish (sewing in all the ends the way I like, placing all the pom poms), and if I paid myself $18/hr (which I do think is crazy but was the model in someone else’s formula), that would already be close $180, and that doesn’t even include materials or a profit (if you look at the pricing model in Craft Inc, your labor time does not include profit, is it simply cost of goods). If I paid myself $10/hr which is slightly less than min wage in SF, my labor cost only is already $80-$100 without including materials or profit, and that would only be a wholesale price. I can’t be blamed if other crocheters/knitters price their items by paying themselves $3/hr or nothing an hour. If you paid yourself $3/hr and it took 5 hours to make a scarf, that’s $15 in labor, add in maybe $7 for supplies (but the yarn I use now is more like $13.95 per hank), give yourself maybe $10 profit, and you’re already at about a $40 for wholesale only. It adds up if you do the math. If you hire help, do you only want to pay them $3/hr? You would be upset with me for that as well. I also don’t blame people who say they can’t afford my scarves. But I honestly wholeheartedly don’t believe that I “price gouge.” I do know that the price is high, and that is why, as I stated, I not only wrote a book of patterns (yes you have to pay for it, but I don’t believe I should work 100% for free?) but also am working really hard to get my Yummy You line going where I hope that the retail price on scarves will be more like $30-$40 (sorry, we tried for $19.99 but those scarves really looked like crap). Will I continue to value my work? Yes. Am I working for free right now to try to get more affordable goods to customers? Also yes. Thanks for your comment. It did make me think about a lot, but you are right, I am going to continue doing what I do.

      • Annie

        says:

        Don’t listen to this chick, she honestly doesn’t understand how hard you work. Your smart, talented, and you know how to run a business Twinkie. I like this quote! (sorry, we tried for $19.99 but those scarves really looked like crap). (It was a nice burn back to her ) Like everyone else said, people are used to buying a 5 dollar scarf at walmart. With all the work you do, and how exspensive the yarn you use is! I mean 13.95 a hank and what if you need like 3 different colors for the scarf? 41.85! Thats already alot of money! I am looking forward for Yummy You, and keep working hard.

        • Annie

          says:

          Oops hehehe, I decided to write another comment because I didn’t see that the other one was in moderation and I said a bad word hehehehe…Sorry

          • TwinkieChan

            says:

            Hehehe I just hadn’t approved a bunch of entries yet :). But I appreciate that you sent an edited version πŸ˜‰

      • Ellyssa

        says:

        Keep doing what you do Twinkie, because you it right. I have looked at the $30-40 dollar cupcake scarfs on Etsy but frankly NONE of them look as nice as yours, it is beyond obvious that you take great care and pride into your scarfs. Your scarfs are a beautiful colorful work of art, I mean I love love love your mint-pink cupcake scarf. None of those scarfs look as nice as yours, and I’m sure none of them are as soft. Your cupcake scarfs look the most like cupcakes to me. In this one scarf pic, one of the cupcakes is curling up, so it isn’t keeping its shape. You Twinkie Chan would never send out a shapeless cupcake. Anyway its not your problem that the other people on Etsy only pay thems elves $3/hour, its their fault. Keep doing what you do best, making quality foodie items.

  • Katie

    says:

    Honestly, I can’t afford your scarves. That doesn’t mean I think you’re overcharging – I bought your book for my sister-in-law (she made me the carrot scarf for Christmas!) so I know how much time goes into making one. I also know the other things that go into the price – rent, gas to the post office, shipping supplies, etsy fees, domain and hosting fees…there’s a lot. Anyone who has ever made anything with their bare hands (i’ve made zines, teeny profit margins for a lot of time) should know better.

    Also, I live cheaply in as many other ways as possible so I CAN afford more indie things. I buy all of my jeans from Goodwill, I use Target coupons and Old Navy sales to buy my work clothes, and any food that doesn’t come from my local health food store (also a small business, so yes their stuff costs more than it does at chain stores), I try to buy on sale, find coupons, or buy from outlet stores. I save up and go on mini shopping sprees online, mostly from people I know, and I get so excited when I get something in the mail that I know was made with love or is supporting a small business. I’m at the point in my life where I want quality over quantity, when it comes to shopping.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Developing Yummy You has definitely been an eye opening experience as far as how much things cost to produce and sell and why cheap things look so cheap!! hehe. But don’t get me wrong. I totally also shop at Old Navy and Target!

  • Misskatamari

    says:

    Twinkie I think you and all indie designers are amazing for even being able to sell your products! I love loads of different crafts but probably make most things either by crochet or I do appliquΓ© tshirts by hand and I honestly can only bear to make things for people I really care about as the time investment is huge! People often ask my hubby about where he’s tshirts are from and how they’d love one but I know that if I actually charged someone taking into account an hourly half decent wage for myself you would be looking at hundreds of pounds! People need to realise that of they they are buying handmade they are buying something unique that has taken hours if not days of work and that alas it comes at a higher cost. Of they don’t like it they should stop moaning and learn some crafting skills of their own (so they can moan about how long it takes them instead)!

  • Polly

    says:

    I think another thing people forget is that indie designers are not expecting everyone to wear their designs head to toe, and not expecting them to entirely stock their wardrobe with handmade items. I see your products more as stand out items that you might have to save up for, but that you could then mix with normal high street stuff and have a more individual look. When you think of it that way, having one super awesome scarf for $175 which you love and cherish and which makes you feel happy really isn’t so extortionate. Designers are normal people too, who also shop in discount/budget stores (often out of necessity from pricing their items too low!), and a lot of the incentive to make stuff comes more from wanting someone to have an item which they love, and to share something, than from wanting to get rich (although getting rich would also be nice :p ). It’s so silly that people can accept that a shop assistant or a bus driver or whoever needs a minimum wage to be able to eat and pay rent and so on, but when you apply this to handmade stuff they seem to think the designer is some profligate no-good who wants to rip people off.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      I can see the rip-off factor when people think about store mark-ups. When crafters start wanting to expand and sell into other boutiques, those boutiques take up to 50%, but you can’t then just double the price for the boutiques, because then your own Etsy shop is under-selling them, and nobody will want to sell your goodies! So then you have to make sure your own Etsy prices are reflective of the pricing you’d want in another boutique as well. It gets complicated! Hehe.

  • I did a spot of research before writing this comment.
    If you go to Neiman Marcus’s website and check out their scarves, on the very first page you will find a wide range of scarves from a $165 Diane von Furstenberg modal (aka rayon) scarf to a $790 Alexander McQueen silk scarf. The McQueen specifies it was Made in Italy, the Diane only says it was Imported.
    At Saks’s website, the first page of the scarf section also features a wide range of scarves once again with the least expensive entry at $165, this time an Alice + Olivia “imported” silk. The most expensive on the page is a $995 Burberry Cashmere/Silk scarf Made in Italy.
    Now I want you to bear something in mind– these are giant corporations, most with even gianter parent corporations. They are able to source their supplies at insane discounts and can outsource their labor all over the world. As far as I know, not one of these scarves may even be handmade.

    You are a designer. You have a reputable brand. You have a product that is in demand. And you sit there and you make each and every item by yourself. You do your own marketing, your own packaging, your own shipping, your own everything.

    Frankly my dear, I think you’re underpricing your garments and if I were you I’d set the price to something that was the average of the eBay prices.

    Can everyone afford a TwinkieChan scarf? Nope.

    But scarves aren’t the only thing you make and even if you did, do you honestly believe someone like Dolce & Gabbana stay up tossing and turning considering how to make their crocheted purses more affordable? Nope.

    You know what crocheters do when they can’t afford a crocheted item? They make it and YOU even gave your fans a pattern book to help them do just that! Not to mention you have a very wide range of items that are under $100. Don’t sweat it Twinks.

    People who won’t spend aren’t going to spend it and people who can and want to will. I think it’s sweet of you to stress it but at the end of the day, you do yourself and your brand a disservice by not honoring your own hard work.

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      OH wow, thanks for doing some research! πŸ™‚ Yeah I don’t equate myself to Alexander McQueen or DvF πŸ˜‰ but the math does really add up. I think the issue is also that my prices are being compared to other Etsy prices, and I am just not comfortable paying myself or my assistants $3/hr for quality work. I also don’t want to buy $2 yarn or skimp on details. I don’t know how other people price their handmade, but I continue to believe that I am not purposefully trying to squeeze blood out of my customers ;). Thank you mutantsupermodel! πŸ˜‰

    • Kirsten Spear

      says:

      Well said! I agree completely!
      I cannot afford a buttered toast scarf (my favorite!), but I bought Twinkie’s lovely book. I used the book to learn how to crochet and to make myself a buttered toast scarf.
      Also, because I really appreciate the book and what Twinkie is doing, I buy less expensive things on her etsy shop to show my support.
      Go Twinkie!
      (ps, when I’m at my local craft store, I always move your book to the front of the crochet section in the book aisle : 0)

      • TwinkieChan

        says:

        Thanks, Kirsten, for being my book pimp! πŸ˜‰ xo

  • Alice

    says:

    Good for you for informing people on why handmade gems are cost so much(totally worth it though!). When I received the give away package from you last February I was(am) in aw! All the cute lite trinkets and hand crafted goodies were beautifully created and I APPRECIATE them so much!!!! I tried to sell some of the toques, pot holders, dish clothes I made in my small town (pop. about 5000 peeps or so) nobody wanted to spend any money on it because of cheap crochet/knitted things online! So lame! Keep up your amazing efforts and amazingly crocheted beauties!!
    -Alice

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Yes, it can be difficult to compete with the mass-produced stuff! We really need to create a unique item, with hopefully a fun story behind it!

  • Susanna

    says:

    I am so glad you are writing about this! A few months back I had a shop interested in buying some of my aprons. She wanted to buy “hundreds” at $7.00 each. Fabric costs more than that a yard and in order to do that I would have to work for free and give them away and pay for shipping out of my own pocket. The shop owner cited her costs for wanting them so cheaply. I don’t make these in a third country where people work for practically nothing. I don’t understand how people can think such narrow thoughts about handmade items. Makes me growl!!!

    • TwinkieChan

      says:

      Yeah totally!!! Sewing hundreds of aprons really sounds more like a mass-produced thing than a handmade thing, unless you run a cottage industry with several helpers who also work for super cheap!!!!

  • Oh Please

    says:

    I think the original Tweet and subsequent comment on this post are both a little melodramatic. The original Tweet started with the pricing, okay fine. If you think they’re too expensive, then just don’t buy them. Period. But to say that it’s “price gouging” is a ridiculous.

    Her prices are her prices and since it’s her creation and her store, she can set the prices to whatever she wants. If customers want it, then they buy and if they don’t, they don’t. Who gives a rip what the prices are? It’s not like she went out and bought a $5 scarf and is trying to resell it for $200 on etsy. That’s price gouging. I don’t even know what that whole rant about the chain scarf was or why that was applicable and so what if out of 1095 pages hers are some of most expensive? Who are you, the scarf price police?

    I can’t personally afford an original Chanmade scarf either (darn it) but not being able to afford something or thinking their prices are high for me doesn’t mean they’re a copycat price gouger that deserves to be self-righteously snarked at on Twitter. Get over yourself.

  • Kimi

    says:

    I totally understand that! I’d love to buy one of your scarves, but it’s not something I can afford with my current budget. That doesn’t mean that the item is overpriced, especially since something like an awesome Twinkie Chan scarf is an extravagance, or a rare treat. We don’t NEED Twinkie Chan stuff to live (except for those who need to be kawaii, or die! πŸ˜€ ). If the price of a Twinkie Chan scarf is too expensive for one, don’t buy it. There will be others that value your time and effort at the price you are charging. πŸ™‚

  • Katie

    says:

    Thank you for writing this. I have to say as a fellow hand-made-business person when I first heard about you I was in awe – you just have your whole thing so down! But when I saw your prices I loved you even more. I recently took a marketing course for handmade business and one of the big lessons for me is people will pay ANYTHING for ANYTHING. Your prices are not high – they represent value, and value is a loaded word with many interpretations. For me with most things it is about someone making something with LOVE and TIME and their TWO HANDS. When I make something I only pay myself UK minimum wage (about $10 an hour) and only account for the time I actually sew – not the making up, jewellery parts, photography or all the other stuff that goes into presenting something you feel passionately about to market. Don’t sweat it girl. There’s a foot for every shoe. Or a neck for every scarf!

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